The Bob Edwards Show, Kat Von D and Frans De Waal, May 1, 2013

Bob talks to Mexican-American tattoo artist Kat Von D about her book Go Big or Go Home: Taking Risks in Life, Love and Tattooing.

Then, biologist Frans De Waal has been named one of Time Magazine’s Most Influential People. He wrote Our Outer Ape and now is releasing The Bonobo and the Atheist: In Search of Humanism Among the Primates in which he uses one of our closest primate relatives to argue that human morality comes not from above, but from within. [Broadcast Date: May 1, 2013]